============================================================== Guild: Antares Development Initiative Channel: CULT / corgi-operations ============================================================== [25-Feb-25 09:11 PM] pagy1234#0000 corgi? [25-Feb-25 09:14 PM] jcheung#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1344145490538659903/mpa4yzzi7f211.png?ex=6814e149&is=68138fc9&hm=f32b3433ae57ee3d4ea1a85d1d6f678f8027f007361eafd26f5bed98607ead30& [25-Feb-25 09:17 PM] jab.sh#0000 https://tenor.com/bB3h9.gif {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/come-on-check-gif-21423107 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/GOX1_s5FayaNfB4DN5wRzCk_GkkAea4fTaHwxZukERk/https/media.tenor.com/SrfYj4JD7JoAAAAe/come-on.png [26-Feb-25 05:06 AM] laaxus#0000 Corgi ! [26-Feb-25 12:46 PM] archielvahr#0000 Hekaton is also a good choice for Construction. Also it will have a gateway so, it's gonna get cool 😎 [26-Feb-25 12:46 PM] laaxus#0000 not in antares {Reactions} 😱 (2) [26-Feb-25 12:47 PM] laaxus#0000 https://tenor.com/view/stop-sign-stop-sign-traffic-sign-street-sign-gif-2690453596687940941 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/stop-sign-stop-sign-traffic-sign-street-sign-gif-2690453596687940941 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/DpjldB37-Tkex9zKfzzLUS1HZlgjt4_Q6ikwZrUbNLI/https/media.tenor.com/JVZpSqNBvU0AAAAe/stop-sign.png [26-Feb-25 12:47 PM] laaxus#0000 but yes you're right [26-Feb-25 12:47 PM] laaxus#0000 Hekaton is ***technically*** a construction planet [26-Feb-25 12:48 PM] laaxus#0000 (I might put a PP2 base there quite soon) [26-Feb-25 12:50 PM] archielvahr#0000 It's definitely more Antares than it is Benten, I personally think antares extends far past the developer's faction borders, which are just too static to represent our growth [26-Feb-25 12:51 PM] jcheung#0000 there's more than one "neutral" world we consider to be ANT [26-Feb-25 01:02 PM] archielvahr#0000 Etherwind πŸ˜† [26-Feb-25 01:13 PM] realharvey#0000 These are all new antares sectors [26-Feb-25 06:08 PM] marat_sh#0000 So as EPO producer I just list EPO not higher than 160/u? [26-Feb-25 11:38 PM] laaxus#0000 No [26-Feb-25 11:38 PM] laaxus#0000 You just produce epo [26-Feb-25 11:39 PM] laaxus#0000 And sell, if you want to, at whatever Price you want [27-Feb-25 07:22 AM] marat_sh#0000 Oh, so it’s more like a guideline if you shopping for new bases and don’t know what to do next [27-Feb-25 07:24 AM] laaxus#0000 yes [27-Feb-25 07:25 AM] laaxus#0000 like "if you want a profitable base while contributing to project corgi, you can take a look at what I suggest" [27-Feb-25 07:25 AM] laaxus#0000 I want the bases to be profitable enough it is sustainable [27-Feb-25 07:26 AM] laaxus#0000 The price targets are my own personnal goal [27-Feb-25 07:26 AM] laaxus#0000 At some point, I'll rent permit for whoever want to lend theirs ... soonTM [27-Feb-25 01:52 PM] marat_sh#0000 currently at 2k EPO/d, but I also doing other chem products [28-Feb-25 01:00 AM] pagy1234#0000 which of the bases listed is most needed for corgi? [28-Feb-25 01:28 AM] laaxus#0000 They're all contributing [28-Feb-25 01:28 AM] laaxus#0000 They have their pro and con [28-Feb-25 01:30 AM] laaxus#0000 Chose a base you'd be happy to have/manage, I don't want Corgi to be a chore for its contributors [28-Feb-25 01:38 AM] laaxus#0000 In a sense, the most profitable base is the one most needed [28-Feb-25 01:39 AM] laaxus#0000 But everybody has different pov on what's profitable [28-Feb-25 03:03 AM] pagy1234#0000 alr [28-Feb-25 03:04 AM] pagy1234#0000 il check out all the plans and see what might work for me [28-Feb-25 03:13 AM] pagy1234#0000 HAL EXT base easily the best for me [28-Feb-25 03:14 AM] laaxus#0000 It can be shipping heavy [28-Feb-25 03:15 AM] laaxus#0000 you're producing 400 HAL per day at peak [28-Feb-25 03:15 AM] pagy1234#0000 not super far from CX, no inputs, shipping is kinda heavy but not much compared to what I alr do for H2O. [28-Feb-25 03:15 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah but with my WCB its 1 visitation per 2.6 days [28-Feb-25 03:15 AM] pagy1234#0000 which is fine since its close to existing bases [28-Feb-25 03:16 AM] laaxus#0000 I can always buy your extra hal if in the worst case [28-Feb-25 03:16 AM] pagy1234#0000 norwick -> halcyon is just 6h [28-Feb-25 03:16 AM] pagy1234#0000 and halcyon -> ant is about 14 [28-Feb-25 03:16 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah, il put whatever i cant move onto LM [28-Feb-25 03:17 AM] laaxus#0000 I have one leased base on halcyon, I'll experiment using the ant LM as shipping [28-Feb-25 03:19 AM] pagy1234#0000 there are already some orders for people selling or shipping stuff on LM, i would assume that that means there are people buying it and shipping it [28-Feb-25 03:19 AM] razesdark#0000 If you extract HAL on planets with Chemical COGC, like agamemnon or ZV-194e, you could probably sell the HAL directly to a CHP base on planet. Worth setting up some kind of deal before breaking ground however [28-Feb-25 03:19 AM] laaxus#0000 Anyway, any new HAL base is welcome [28-Feb-25 03:19 AM] laaxus#0000 There are large bids on the CX, meaning you won't ever lose money [28-Feb-25 03:19 AM] pagy1234#0000 on agamemnon the extraction rate is kinda mid [28-Feb-25 03:20 AM] laaxus#0000 in the future, you could build CHP bases to refine the HAL into CL yourself [28-Feb-25 03:21 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah that could work [28-Feb-25 03:21 AM] pagy1234#0000 but il have to establish another H2O base before that lol [28-Feb-25 03:22 AM] pagy1234#0000 actually maybe not, needs hardly any water [01-Mar-25 04:46 PM] laaxus#0000 I thnk I'm over producing RFABS, so I'll probably convert one PP3 base into PP2 [01-Mar-25 04:46 PM] laaxus#0000 and yeah, I just can't produce enough LFabs to influence the price [01-Mar-25 07:56 PM] finestone#0000 I mean the Devs said they plan on us being able to extend our borders [01-Mar-25 08:21 PM] archielvahr#0000 Yeah I assume it will be a while before that comes out. But I expect ANT to do well [02-Mar-25 04:10 AM] pagy1234#0000 lets try not to delete the other factions 🀣 [02-Mar-25 04:11 AM] laaxus#0000 Hortus is in our sphere of influence [02-Mar-25 04:12 AM] laaxus#0000 and ben .... well it's a more long term plan [02-Mar-25 04:19 AM] laaxus#0000 Droppin new PP2 base [02-Mar-25 04:19 AM] laaxus#0000 I'm receiving my new ship this week, once this is done, I'll drop yet again another PP2 base [03-Mar-25 10:28 AM] finestone#0000 I would assume the CX stations are unclaimable [03-Mar-25 10:37 AM] pagy1234#0000 ofc ofc, they probably wouldnt even allow up to claim systems that are already claimed [03-Mar-25 10:39 AM] laaxus#0000 It just means we aren't manifesting our Destiny enough {Reactions} AmericaAbrahamLincoln (2) [03-Mar-25 10:41 AM] finestone#0000 No they said they are going to allow some level of faction pressure to change system ownership [03-Mar-25 10:41 AM] pagy1234#0000 oh fr? [03-Mar-25 10:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 universe economic sim : colonialism update [03-Mar-25 10:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 🀣 [03-Mar-25 10:42 AM] laaxus#0000 Don't expect it before a decade or so [03-Mar-25 10:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 fair [03-Mar-25 10:42 AM] finestone#0000 Decade probably over exaggerated but yeah it gonna be quite awhile [03-Mar-25 07:55 PM] pagy1234#0000 almost got all the mats ready, will send a ship out later today to get it set up [03-Mar-25 07:55 PM] pagy1234#0000 just waiting for my last contract to go through [03-Mar-25 09:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I can help you move a lot of the materials out there if you need [03-Mar-25 09:08 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I need to pick up some HAL from there anyways so I'll be sending a ship empty [03-Mar-25 09:46 PM] pagy1234#0000 Il let you know if i need any help, i dont think the materials fill up my ship so it should be fine [03-Mar-25 09:55 PM] .urpalhal#0000 INS is pretty bulky so just let me know πŸ™‚ [03-Mar-25 10:00 PM] pagy1234#0000 will doπŸ‘ [04-Mar-25 03:18 AM] razenpok#0000 RDE went below the target price πŸ”₯ {Reactions} πŸ”₯ (2) [04-Mar-25 03:22 AM] pxlfox.#0000 I love Antares [04-Mar-25 03:28 AM] laaxus#0000 nice ! [04-Mar-25 03:29 AM] laaxus#0000 Rfabs are looking great, so now I'm focusing on both Lfabs and HAL [04-Mar-25 03:30 AM] laaxus#0000 btw I added one table on the spreadsheet : {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1346414474093006878/image.png?ex=681490b1&is=68133f31&hm=7d93c6418abe0694d75857a6309ce096e7691c19c2708ebdc3e7cbcec29d2be2& [04-Mar-25 04:23 AM] pagy1234#0000 πŸš€ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1346427846138265621/Screenshot_2025-03-04_at_6.23.21_PM.png?ex=68149d25&is=68134ba5&hm=21e96e599e92453d8f2879d010b7573596c742c886e49bf0ecceb1880bb72ebb& {Reactions} πŸ”₯ [04-Mar-25 04:24 AM] pagy1234#0000 no idea why my computer decided to highlight triglyceride nuts lol [04-Mar-25 11:26 AM] laaxus#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1346534251318743111/image.png?ex=6815003e&is=6813aebe&hm=78d9b4715092df6ba0fdd965653d2bd3cc0400f831bfca1bc5b39d54eb577313& [04-Mar-25 11:28 AM] laaxus#0000 I have now 3 PP2 bases running [04-Mar-25 11:28 AM] laaxus#0000 and 3 PP3 [04-Mar-25 02:14 PM] pxlfox.#0000 https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/rH74REehZBxmaS2cyeWffr2BI54G2k3joL2ksiN2UlE/https/media.tenor.com/u8YEMwIfJGMAAAAe/thanos.png [04-Mar-25 02:14 PM] pxlfox.#0000 @laaxus being like [04-Mar-25 02:23 PM] laaxus#0000 Damn, to buy 34k EPO is expensive [04-Mar-25 02:23 PM] laaxus#0000 someone should really do work to reduce that price [04-Mar-25 02:23 PM] laaxus#0000 wait a minute [05-Mar-25 03:25 AM] razesdark#0000 But my profitmargins! [05-Mar-25 03:28 AM] laaxus#0000 I'm focusing on HAL for now [05-Mar-25 03:36 AM] razesdark#0000 Im a small player in this anyways. Only have a few mixed bases so i produce a mere 1.5k EPO a day [05-Mar-25 03:44 AM] laaxus#0000 let's see who are the top EPO producers [05-Mar-25 03:44 AM] laaxus#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1346780443608875018/image.png?ex=68149407&is=68134287&hm=737353b762507224fb34965d9d55c7eac904e95f9ae58c2d9cc472d45e2fe9ac& [05-Mar-25 03:46 AM] razesdark#0000 69th {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1346780796614086686/image.png?ex=6814945b&is=681342db&hm=e1667f33a312603e10075ff8140d194cc994bfc78b734afc1d7ef12425c9a41c& [05-Mar-25 03:49 AM] pagy1234#0000 do you know how the score is calculated? you said you make 1.5k a day but have 6.2k score? [05-Mar-25 03:49 AM] pagy1234#0000 never understood how it works [05-Mar-25 03:49 AM] laaxus#0000 it's the amount produced [05-Mar-25 03:49 AM] laaxus#0000 per week [05-Mar-25 03:49 AM] razesdark#0000 Its units per 7 days. I just made a new base so its not producing 100%, overshot my estimate a bit it seems [05-Mar-25 03:57 AM] laaxus#0000 XDD {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1346783618466451457/image.png?ex=681496fc&is=6813457c&hm=04fca7b91c328ede6e62db5aa67c7bf3d0f48b3f56d574286df83af3aa161bad& [05-Mar-25 04:22 AM] pagy1234#0000 ah ok, good to know [05-Mar-25 04:22 AM] pagy1234#0000 probably why my scores are a bit lower than they should be [05-Mar-25 04:45 AM] realharvey#0000 Looks like I have to ramp up production [05-Mar-25 04:45 AM] laaxus#0000 Wait a bit I *might* be overproducing [05-Mar-25 04:59 AM] realharvey#0000 You are [05-Mar-25 11:09 AM] cptboby#0000 what is the command for the top producer list? [05-Mar-25 11:10 AM] jcheung#0000 lead {Reactions} πŸ™‡ [05-Mar-25 11:27 AM] laaxus#0000 updated RFabs target price : RBH : 16200 RDE : 28200 RSE : 24500 RTA : 15000 [06-Mar-25 10:42 AM] laaxus#0000 btw @pagy1234 I see that the HAL BID has been filled [06-Mar-25 10:42 AM] laaxus#0000 I'll buy your HAL at 200 @ Halcyon, worst come to worst, don't be afraid [06-Mar-25 10:43 AM] laaxus#0000 and once I finance a few CL bases, HAL consumptions will increase again [06-Mar-25 10:46 AM] laaxus#0000 nvm I found a better way to solve this issue {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1347248989489074236/image.png?ex=6814f6e5&is=6813a565&hm=8ff8d4c02f0598249d754cc3d3d94498fa221351826b078dbc34ebb62e09a220& [06-Mar-25 10:46 AM] pagy1234#0000 wdym? [06-Mar-25 10:47 AM] laaxus#0000 there used to be a large bid at 330, something like that [06-Mar-25 10:47 AM] laaxus#0000 but that bid has been filled [06-Mar-25 10:47 AM] laaxus#0000 so you might have found yourself with HAL you couldn't sell (at a high profit) [06-Mar-25 10:47 AM] laaxus#0000 but I guarantee you won't πŸ˜„ [06-Mar-25 10:48 AM] pagy1234#0000 ah i see, but yeah my base hasnt even made its first full batch of hal so i didnt notice lol, thanks for holding up the market tho :D [06-Mar-25 10:50 AM] pagy1234#0000 in about 4 hours il have my first batch of 126 hal, then every 9h 41min afterwards until the death of the universe il have another 126 hal :D [06-Mar-25 10:51 AM] laaxus#0000 yeah, HAL will always be profitable {Reactions} πŸ‘ [06-Mar-25 10:51 AM] laaxus#0000 HAL into CL into EPO will always be great [06-Mar-25 11:20 AM] jcheung#0000 HAL from Hal is even more profitable if you pick up from Halcyon [06-Mar-25 11:29 AM] jab.sh#0000 except that time slowly goes up as your base degrades πŸ˜„ [06-Mar-25 11:32 AM] realharvey#0000 If you are struggling to move HAL from halcypm you can also sell it on site to me. I have more shipping capacity [06-Mar-25 11:33 AM] laaxus#0000 Plan is to fix hal Price at 280 on the cx [06-Mar-25 11:33 AM] laaxus#0000 Then sell it at 250 at Halcyon [06-Mar-25 11:34 AM] laaxus#0000 In that order [07-Mar-25 03:13 PM] vanarazor#0000 For CHP base instead of Electronica I could use ZV -639d and ZV-307b to reduce shipping distance [07-Mar-25 03:25 PM] laaxus#0000 I discourage it, as those planets are more costly to build on, reducing profit [07-Mar-25 05:25 PM] tanda#0000 639d is a really bad idea early. AEF is a pain in the butt. [07-Mar-25 08:13 PM] .urpalhal#0000 AEF is not fun [08-Mar-25 05:06 AM] laaxus#0000 After investigating Black mesa and Lom Palanka planetary conditions, I declare Hekaton honorary Antarean, and therefore, its colonization is now decriminalized [08-Mar-25 08:45 AM] laaxus#0000 Weekly changelog target prices : Those changes are just adaptation to input good prices, which was expected. LDE : 8400 -> 8600 LSE : 8100 -> 8200 LTA : 3800 -> 3500 RFabs target prices will now assume a EPO price of 175/u, until EPO is stable at 170 at the very least RBH : 16200 -> 16700 RDE : 28200 -> 28800 RSE : 24500 -> 25500 RTA : 15000 -> 15500 I'll now assume a darkfuel shipping price of 35k per trip, which means 5/u more HAL: 280 -> 285 CL at 3100, while fair, is entirely unrealistic for now, so I put it at 3300 just to keep my sanity in check CL : 3100 -> 3300 [08-Mar-25 11:08 AM] tanda#0000 Yeah, I'm stepping them up because they're close, not because they're cheap [08-Mar-25 11:08 AM] tanda#0000 Hekaton is in the exact same boat post gateway [09-Mar-25 08:02 PM] o.pie#0000 Is there a sugar daddy in chat who could give me a 4M AIC loan at 3% so I can drop a POL base on the planet formerly known as Elon? [09-Mar-25 08:59 PM] tanda#0000 ~~You could probably do that considerably cheaper than 4m with 24 POL, 4 HBB 3 HB2, 1 STO. Looks like 1.7m for the base + 10 days of supplies for 250k. making it 2.3mil for buffer makes your weekly payments at 299-237k for a Stable Loan (least amount of interest) or 253k constantly for an Annuity Loan (least amount of interest). If that sounds okay with you, I can do that, but 4mil would be stretching my budget a bit too much~~ [09-Mar-25 09:04 PM] tanda#0000 one sec, checking something [09-Mar-25 09:05 PM] tanda#0000 Yeah Prun planner mixed my inventory into that and made it way cheaper [09-Mar-25 09:05 PM] .urpalhal#0000 I can probably [09-Mar-25 09:20 PM] .urpalhal#0000 60 day loan work? [09-Mar-25 09:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 annuity loan {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1348481271269031976/image.png?ex=6814d54c&is=681383cc&hm=8950258ef6ed203262a8a555dc16e3f68a4fe458711c772804520b202cd53ab8& [09-Mar-25 09:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 stable loan {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1348481477054042132/image.png?ex=6814d57d&is=681383fd&hm=7291d250a115de5596413f537f8bd1495c13016f7dc884799296e3bfe5a04426& [10-Mar-25 04:32 AM] o.pie#0000 The stable loan will work. [10-Mar-25 07:36 AM] o.pie#0000 The base itself will cost 1.7M (plus 200k for the HQ upgrade), but I also need to buy input buffers for every other base [10-Mar-25 11:29 AM] .urpalhal#0000 ok sent it to ya {Reactions} πŸ€‘ [10-Mar-25 11:30 AM] o.pie#0000 ty [10-Mar-25 01:21 PM] laaxus#0000 There's gonna be a shortage of WPL bases [10-Mar-25 01:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 WPL bases man [10-Mar-25 01:21 PM] .urpalhal#0000 They be chonky [10-Mar-25 01:21 PM] laaxus#0000 I've never did the math [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] laaxus#0000 but you need 3 WPL bases to feed one PP2 [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Cant you only fit a few WPL in a 500 area [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Like 9 or something [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] laaxus#0000 yeah [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Chonky [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] jab.sh#0000 9 yeah [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] jab.sh#0000 with a STO [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] jab.sh#0000 but that leaves 16 space [10-Mar-25 01:22 PM] .urpalhal#0000 So two sto [10-Mar-25 01:23 PM] laaxus#0000 no need for sto [10-Mar-25 01:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 lol fair [10-Mar-25 01:23 PM] laaxus#0000 30 space left [10-Mar-25 01:23 PM] jab.sh#0000 yeah true [10-Mar-25 01:23 PM] jab.sh#0000 WPL would take forever to fill up a STO [10-Mar-25 01:23 PM] .urpalhal#0000 They’re so slow [10-Mar-25 01:25 PM] jab.sh#0000 2 STO might make sense if you have WPL on heph and also sell ships there [10-Mar-25 01:25 PM] .urpalhal#0000 Fair [10-Mar-25 01:28 PM] laaxus#0000 I've added NL to the corgi spreadsheet [10-Mar-25 01:30 PM] laaxus#0000 Astraeus is such a bad manufacturing planet [10-Mar-25 01:30 PM] laaxus#0000 petition to transform it into a construction planet [10-Mar-25 01:31 PM] laaxus#0000 btw we're so close to have 12 greens {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1348725022877028403/image.png?ex=68150f8f&is=6813be0f&hm=d339637ee7225736c44728aae990b2d755db2c9b6ac70a334cd26477330a60ad& [10-Mar-25 01:31 PM] laaxus#0000 just need to fix LTA and RDE [10-Mar-25 01:39 PM] archielvahr#0000 Come to Hekaton, it's only one jump (via gateway) from ANT [10-Mar-25 01:51 PM] laaxus#0000 I was going to, but then I realised that LFabs were ok [10-Mar-25 01:52 PM] laaxus#0000 Now I'm investing in CL [10-Mar-25 01:55 PM] jcheung#0000 what's your arguments against? [10-Mar-25 01:56 PM] laaxus#0000 I feel like the most needed manufacturing bases are low cost low revenue [10-Mar-25 01:57 PM] laaxus#0000 and astraeus planeteru conditions makes such bases ... just bad [10-Mar-25 01:57 PM] jcheung#0000 its orbit makes high visitation bad [10-Mar-25 01:58 PM] jcheung#0000 its stats aren't ideal for low area buildings because of the.... what does it need, hse? [10-Mar-25 01:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 I mean.. BMPs are essential but low returns. I think there are plenty of manufacturing options that are good for an established player: [10-Mar-25 01:59 PM] archielvahr#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1348731939334393866/image.png?ex=68151600&is=6813c480&hm=0bdb50197b931bf8070a392fb1102d009780e31e5b28ad8c963e10720ea749a6& [10-Mar-25 02:00 PM] archielvahr#0000 I make LIS, HD, and PCBs on Astraeus, and those are low visitation options. So is Iodine [10-Mar-25 02:01 PM] jcheung#0000 so are WPLs [10-Mar-25 02:01 PM] laaxus#0000 a WPL base is twice more expensive on astraeus than hephaestus [10-Mar-25 02:01 PM] jcheung#0000 no it's not [10-Mar-25 02:02 PM] laaxus#0000 yes it is [10-Mar-25 02:03 PM] laaxus#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1348732901302337627/image.png?ex=681516e5&is=6813c565&hm=65ac9d19b9104f54259c9f11a5d9e87eb139e7ea9283d70c161cdaf6708e54f7& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1348732901633560666/image.png?ex=681516e5&is=6813c565&hm=e1e3db35ba98b868ae7116f27e4c62352b7feb64e3b301a04a3315b6ca8675b3& [10-Mar-25 02:05 PM] jcheung#0000 oh, wait. i have custom HSE prices set [10-Mar-25 02:05 PM] jcheung#0000 okay, sure. but any base you put there will have similar multipliers [10-Mar-25 02:06 PM] laaxus#0000 it's not a multipler [10-Mar-25 02:06 PM] laaxus#0000 that's my point [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] jcheung#0000 it's based on building count [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] jcheung#0000 but yeah, sure [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] laaxus#0000 yes [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] jcheung#0000 the orbit isn't conducive to a new player anyways [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] jcheung#0000 its travel sucks [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] laaxus#0000 but if the orginal base is much more expensive, then the additional cost is not that much [10-Mar-25 02:07 PM] jcheung#0000 like what [10-Mar-25 02:08 PM] jcheung#0000 what would you have construction wise that would be so much better [10-Mar-25 02:09 PM] laaxus#0000 sigh [10-Mar-25 02:09 PM] laaxus#0000 I was mostly joking [10-Mar-25 02:09 PM] laaxus#0000 yes construction could be better but not worth the change anyway [10-Mar-25 02:10 PM] jcheung#0000 better in what way though [10-Mar-25 02:10 PM] laaxus#0000 PP2 PP3 base requires a lot of shipping [10-Mar-25 02:10 PM] laaxus#0000 so to have them close is appreciated [10-Mar-25 02:10 PM] laaxus#0000 and they're also more expensive [10-Mar-25 02:10 PM] jcheung#0000 astraeus is *not* close [10-Mar-25 02:11 PM] jcheung#0000 it's quite far away [10-Mar-25 02:11 PM] laaxus#0000 it's not close, but it's not far [10-Mar-25 02:11 PM] jcheung#0000 astraeus is only good if you have stuff coming in from FTL and going out to FTL [10-Mar-25 02:11 PM] jcheung#0000 STL to anywhere in the system is absolutely terrible [10-Mar-25 02:16 PM] getonthetrain#0000 WPL is actually better on planets that require a single building special item like HSE because it is per building and WPL are massive {Reactions} πŸ‘† [10-Mar-25 02:19 PM] getonthetrain#0000 Astraeus is not bad for WPL (also QJ-382A), just chuck a bunch of PG at it and check back in a few weeks [10-Mar-25 02:19 PM] laaxus#0000 in terms of minimization of cost, yes [10-Mar-25 02:19 PM] laaxus#0000 but building wpl on astraeus litterally divide your roi by 2 [10-Mar-25 02:19 PM] getonthetrain#0000 requires very small inputs and outputs so travel time is negated mostly [10-Mar-25 02:20 PM] getonthetrain#0000 ok, and so? There are only so many triple greens {Reactions} πŸ‘ [10-Mar-25 02:20 PM] laaxus#0000 It's just an insanely bad investment [10-Mar-25 02:20 PM] getonthetrain#0000 WPLs are at current prices people are selling at, yes [10-Mar-25 02:20 PM] getonthetrain#0000 if they wised up, then maybe not [10-Mar-25 02:21 PM] laaxus#0000 WPL could be produced at 5300 or even 5000 if WPL were built on Hephaestus [10-Mar-25 02:21 PM] getonthetrain#0000 nobody is stopping you [10-Mar-25 02:21 PM] laaxus#0000 oh dw, I have plans [10-Mar-25 02:23 PM] getonthetrain#0000 nobody is arguing that triple greens aren't cheaper. I am saying that Astraeus requires only the HSE and since you can fit like 9 on a single permit its not bad, plus habs dont need repairs {Reactions} πŸ‘ [10-Mar-25 02:23 PM] getonthetrain#0000 so its only so high on initial cost [10-Mar-25 02:24 PM] laaxus#0000 And my point is that WPL revenue per building is too low vs the HSE cost [10-Mar-25 02:24 PM] laaxus#0000 anyway, doesn't matter [10-Mar-25 02:24 PM] laaxus#0000 this discussion is going nowhere [10-Mar-25 02:24 PM] laaxus#0000 nothing to gain or lose [10-Mar-25 02:28 PM] getonthetrain#0000 well, if NL ever got priced right, I would build QJ-382A with WPLs [10-Mar-25 03:05 PM] jcheung#0000 i think it also takes INS but that's not too bad {Reactions} πŸ‘ [12-Mar-25 11:16 AM] laaxus#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1349415793888071720/image.png?ex=6814efe4&is=68139e64&hm=1964b53c1d811c8448c6a0d486ca045a554e6dc73cac29739f656f6a424bd58e& [12-Mar-25 11:17 AM] laaxus#0000 https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-verge-of-greatness-gif-13754250 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-verge-of-greatness-gif-13754250 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/aIEdfTjODhp4RrTWvXLN-HiNu_VEBU17FS3uDgLZLT8/https/media.tenor.com/GzSmoO9jSNkAAAAe/rogue-one-verge-of-greatness.png [12-Mar-25 11:27 AM] laaxus#0000 πŸ˜„ {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1349418452892254239/image.png?ex=6814f25e&is=6813a0de&hm=efa7ee873e09837c2b3c27b05def5ddb0ca2534c2d7954472db5b6d59b794ba0& [12-Mar-25 11:28 AM] .urpalhal#0000 lol how am I now back to back? [12-Mar-25 11:30 AM] laaxus#0000 time to reduce CL price now [12-Mar-25 11:30 AM] laaxus#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1349419265555431506/image.png?ex=6814f31f&is=6813a19f&hm=7eefaa36dbaca12f68a76edaac843f65bcdabc4b70c4cd3979c411c3ead8a54d& {Reactions} DancieBoi (2) [12-Mar-25 11:30 AM] laaxus#0000 wdym ? [15-Mar-25 01:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 like i have two orders one at 338 and then one at 300 but there was someone who had an order in between those two values [15-Mar-25 01:41 PM] .urpalhal#0000 but now theres no one [15-Mar-25 01:44 PM] laaxus#0000 that's because the guy wanted to sell his hal [15-Mar-25 01:44 PM] laaxus#0000 and the only way to do it is to reduce its price now that I am controlling it [15-Mar-25 01:45 PM] .urpalhal#0000 he should just make more [16-Mar-25 10:58 AM] razenpok#0000 RDE.AI1: \*aggressively gets cheaper\* {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1350860727597924402/image.png?ex=6814eb97&is=68139a17&hm=bab8cef7bfb836d4addd88fcd1dcfa4853b203ca80b70e9d3539bf6588dc91a8& [16-Mar-25 10:59 AM] laaxus#0000 pretty sure 26.8k is at a loss atm ? [16-Mar-25 10:59 AM] .urpalhal#0000 πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ [16-Mar-25 10:59 AM] laaxus#0000 I think it's an over reaction [16-Mar-25 11:00 AM] laaxus#0000 Anyway, if people want to fight over lower prices, I don't mind [16-Mar-25 11:00 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Maybe they’re vertically integrated? So not as dependent on what the CX says [16-Mar-25 11:00 AM] .urpalhal#0000 Bc sometimes the CX says things are worth much more than what they aught to be [26-Mar-25 04:11 AM] laaxus#0000 Update on Fabs price : As I'm unable to satisfy the market, I decided to update LFabs price to roughly 100k/d profit. (which seems a more realistic target after a few discussion with peers) (Assuming 400/u for GL and accounting for current NL high price) LDE : 8200 -> 9100 LSE : 8400 -> 9100 LTA : 3800 -> 4000 {Reactions} πŸ‘ (2) [26-Mar-25 06:57 AM] pagy1234#0000 Whats the closest construction planet to ANT? [26-Mar-25 06:57 AM] pagy1234#0000 Might do Lfabs [26-Mar-25 06:57 AM] laaxus#0000 the best construction planets are nike and aceland [26-Mar-25 07:03 AM] tanda#0000 Black Mesa and Lom Palanka are also options(1 jump away from ANT) but the SET population is small at this point [26-Mar-25 07:04 AM] laaxus#0000 759a and 194b are surprisingly close too [26-Mar-25 07:44 AM] pagy1234#0000 Is it worth it to do a pp2 base at my level? [26-Mar-25 07:44 AM] pagy1234#0000 They have quite a few inputs [26-Mar-25 07:45 AM] pagy1234#0000 Oh maybe I should do GL first [26-Mar-25 07:48 AM] sidepipe#0000 If it’s profitable to make it from CX inputs and you can afford to, yes πŸ™‚ [26-Mar-25 07:49 AM] pagy1234#0000 Well GL, which i am lead to believe is used in some Lfabs its not on cx at all [26-Mar-25 07:49 AM] pagy1234#0000 And the afford part with kinda unknown [26-Mar-25 07:50 AM] pagy1234#0000 ~2.5mil of liabilites and about 400-500k profit a day [26-Mar-25 07:50 AM] laaxus#0000 uh ? [26-Mar-25 07:50 AM] sidepipe#0000 Oh didn’t see that glass was out, haven’t read through everything yet [26-Mar-25 07:50 AM] laaxus#0000 where do you get those number from ? [26-Mar-25 07:51 AM] pagy1234#0000 I mean my current company [26-Mar-25 07:51 AM] pagy1234#0000 Not the badr [26-Mar-25 07:51 AM] pagy1234#0000 Base [26-Mar-25 07:51 AM] laaxus#0000 oh ok [26-Mar-25 07:51 AM] pagy1234#0000 Like im in debt, and its gonna take a while to get rid of that [26-Mar-25 07:51 AM] laaxus#0000 about a week [26-Mar-25 07:52 AM] laaxus#0000 tho, you should not repay it early (unless it induces stress and anxiety to you) [26-Mar-25 07:52 AM] laaxus#0000 as long as you have a large enough money buffer, debt is a vibe [26-Mar-25 07:53 AM] sidepipe#0000 As long as you can afford the interest, debt is just extra money πŸ˜„ [26-Mar-25 07:53 AM] laaxus#0000 tho, I'd not recommend taking too much debt [26-Mar-25 07:53 AM] laaxus#0000 going too fast is not fun [26-Mar-25 07:53 AM] laaxus#0000 I stopped taking debt roughly where you are [26-Mar-25 07:56 AM] laaxus#0000 I think there's enough place on the market for at least 2 GF bases and at least 2 PP2 bases (conservative estimates) [26-Mar-25 08:17 AM] pagy1234#0000 thats why I have been holding off on getting any loans I know are way outside my earning level [26-Mar-25 08:18 AM] pagy1234#0000 i dont mind getting like 2mil because I know I could just wait a week and get that money anyways [26-Mar-25 11:04 AM] pxlfox.#0000 I might setup a GL base in the next few days. [28-Mar-25 11:56 AM] pagy1234#0000 just ordered all the parts for a CHP base on electronica [28-Mar-25 11:56 AM] pagy1234#0000 gonna make some CL :D [28-Mar-25 11:57 AM] laaxus#0000 πŸ˜„ [28-Mar-25 11:57 AM] pagy1234#0000 lowkey much cheaper than I expected [28-Mar-25 11:57 AM] pagy1234#0000 about 700k total I think [16-Apr-25 03:55 AM] magican1980#0000 πŸ™‚ I have 1 CHP for CL to the market and will build my second on electronica on this weekend {Reactions} πŸ‘ [16-Apr-25 04:11 AM] laaxus#0000 maybe look at the popr first [16-Apr-25 04:11 AM] laaxus#0000 of electronica [16-Apr-25 04:11 AM] laaxus#0000 IDK if the big pop shortage of electronica is sovled [16-Apr-25 04:16 AM] magican1980#0000 will look [16-Apr-25 04:17 AM] magican1980#0000 also my first ~350 DDT will go the market tommorow πŸ™‚ [16-Apr-25 04:17 AM] laaxus#0000 DDT is not that profitable atm, at least in antares [16-Apr-25 04:20 AM] pagy1234#0000 my base got filled after they ran fes3 [16-Apr-25 04:21 AM] pagy1234#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1361995007007133726/Screenshot_2025-04-16_at_5.21.46_PM.png?ex=68148eb2&is=68133d32&hm=e9e1dfe3a8558e367cd0ee3993d9e530e156ffcdfb42cc723389f338965e3917& [16-Apr-25 04:22 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah probably enough lol [16-Apr-25 04:42 AM] magican1980#0000 I have Carbon and CL vertical integrated, so I make a good profit from it. Even if I sell at Hortus or Benten πŸ™‚ [16-Apr-25 03:32 PM] marat_sh#0000 Huh? [16-Apr-25 07:14 PM] tanda#0000 {Attachments} https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343231833604882472/1362219624355201054/image.png?ex=6814b723&is=681365a3&hm=85579cab549aee3e25c027443c072dc18a8a5eaee3187a61a0162051de992e02& [16-Apr-25 07:14 PM] tanda#0000 Yep, that looks about right [16-Apr-25 07:19 PM] sidepipe#0000 I'm still seeing profits of 130-140k a day for my DDT bases in FINPR [16-Apr-25 07:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 but there's a bit of a race to the bottom in ANT right now to get DDT sold [16-Apr-25 07:20 PM] sidepipe#0000 so I'm just sending it elsewhere in the meantime πŸ˜„ [16-Apr-25 07:21 PM] tanda#0000 I did swap back to THF this morning, but that's more of a "oh crap supply is low" thing [16-Apr-25 07:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 same for one of my bases [16-Apr-25 07:21 PM] sidepipe#0000 ...so DDT should be profitable again soon πŸ˜† [16-Apr-25 07:22 PM] sidepipe#0000 In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised if DDT saw a weakening of demand in the next month or so anyway with the big MM changes [16-Apr-25 07:25 PM] tanda#0000 yeah, for real. There's a lot of people just dumping IDC due to it not being easy money anymore [16-Apr-25 07:25 PM] tanda#0000 I wish I knew what they were going to do, I suspect the real money will be in SI [16-Apr-25 07:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 I guess we'll find out. I wouldn't be upset if SI went up, my base is basically a sunk cost [16-Apr-25 07:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 4k+ for DDT is pretty expensive [16-Apr-25 07:26 PM] sidepipe#0000 and IDC is still super easy money - just not the easiest and best option anymore [16-Apr-25 07:26 PM] marat_sh#0000 It hurts me to see KOM so expensive [16-Apr-25 07:26 PM] tanda#0000 cheapest of the CXs right now, and people are selling at 3240 too [16-Apr-25 07:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 yeah... i actually dropped some FER on SE-052a to make KOM [16-Apr-25 07:27 PM] sidepipe#0000 so now it's just an MEA and KOM base. one of those should probably always stay profitable [16-Apr-25 09:59 PM] zillatron#0000 ya my credit balance says it's plenty profitable atm haha [16-Apr-25 10:15 PM] moke.#0000 Yeah but whats your roi looking like on prunplanner??? [16-Apr-25 10:17 PM] zillatron#0000 lol [16-Apr-25 10:18 PM] zillatron#0000 https://tenor.com/view/80m-increased-revenue-%26-redeploy-3-fte-gif-2319601784744478471 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/80m-increased-revenue-%26-redeploy-3-fte-gif-2319601784744478471 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/C12G9CSWQXg8ZIhv5YXBXDh67xklOntuUcxRYnGD06M/https/media.tenor.com/IDDhiJAOhwcAAAAe/80m-increased-revenue-%2526-redeploy-3-fte.png [16-Apr-25 10:19 PM] zillatron#0000 look the base is 468 days old, get off my nuts [17-Apr-25 01:14 AM] jcheung#0000 hmmm. i should buy while it's low πŸ€” [17-Apr-25 01:57 AM] magican1980#0000 I'm making now steady DDT Supply and will sell it at Antares or Benten, otherwise Hortus also πŸ™‚, even Prun FIN says I have more then 40 Mio in my inventar *omg* must sell more, but 15 Base with worker Supply for ~25-30 days its sum accordently [17-Apr-25 04:18 AM] laaxus#0000 CL price is going down πŸ˜„ [17-Apr-25 04:18 AM] laaxus#0000 finally [17-Apr-25 04:19 AM] laaxus#0000 let's see how much it falls [17-Apr-25 04:41 AM] realharvey#0000 told ya! [17-Apr-25 04:52 AM] pagy1234#0000 FIM aswell, I think [17-Apr-25 04:52 AM] pagy1234#0000 idk, might be just because im throwing all my fim at the bid orders [17-Apr-25 04:54 AM] laaxus#0000 yeah fim went from absurd squared to just absurd [17-Apr-25 05:52 AM] pxlfox.#0000 Hate being late to trends πŸ˜‚ [17-Apr-25 06:02 AM] laaxus#0000 DW there's no next trend : the universe is going to crash [17-Apr-25 06:17 AM] realharvey#0000 MEA is also going down rapidly [17-Apr-25 06:19 AM] laaxus#0000 The universe is healing [17-Apr-25 06:19 AM] laaxus#0000 (tho it shouldn't change much until 7 weeks) [17-Apr-25 06:24 AM] realharvey#0000 yeah its healing in those parts and will be hurt in others hahaha [17-Apr-25 06:31 AM] evov#0000 I've had 2x IDC bases to provide reliable cashflow for a while. I've deleted one of them already and will remove the other within the next few weeks. I've also removed some other bases and put down 3 new bases today. I think the recent changes to the game has given a "kick" to it... and there's lots of changes / adjustments already happening from players. Despite the IDC / EDC nerfs, I expect my net MM capacity will increase over the coming weeks due to the MM changes and my re-shuffle of bases. [17-Apr-25 08:23 AM] pxlfox.#0000 In what sense? Prices deflate to a β€œhealthy” level? [17-Apr-25 08:26 AM] laaxus#0000 IDC made HER FIM MEA disproportionnally profitable [17-Apr-25 08:26 AM] pxlfox.#0000 And indirectly everything that went into it.. [17-Apr-25 08:27 AM] laaxus#0000 I think the new MM money going into more products won't feel as acute as FIM MEA [17-Apr-25 08:27 AM] pagy1234#0000 what do you guys think will be the most affected materials with the upcoming changes? [17-Apr-25 08:27 AM] pxlfox.#0000 I expect overall more need for resources {Reactions} πŸ‘ [17-Apr-25 08:27 AM] pxlfox.#0000 Chems [17-Apr-25 08:27 AM] pxlfox.#0000 More need for TEC and ENG [17-Apr-25 08:28 AM] pagy1234#0000 so FIM/MEA will stay high? [17-Apr-25 08:29 AM] pxlfox.#0000 Maybe not as high as it’s currently - depending on how many SCI we’re gonna lose [17-Apr-25 08:29 AM] laaxus#0000 nah fim mea consumption will definitly go down [17-Apr-25 08:29 AM] pxlfox.#0000 Some might change there IDC bases to WAI or other SCI products [17-Apr-25 08:30 AM] pxlfox.#0000 But many will probably pivot to other chains [17-Apr-25 08:30 AM] pxlfox.#0000 And most of them require ENG/TEC [17-Apr-25 08:31 AM] pxlfox.#0000 The chains I looked at mostly are very electronics heavy and also need lots of plastic [17-Apr-25 08:31 AM] pxlfox.#0000 I could imagine PE/PG and other plastics might become more needed [17-Apr-25 08:32 AM] pagy1234#0000 luckily im making those 😝 [17-Apr-25 09:07 AM] realharvey#0000 I think FIM will stay around the same. MEA will go down [17-Apr-25 09:36 AM] jcheung#0000 Mea coming down far enough will send fim down. Fim will lag though. [17-Apr-25 09:37 AM] jcheung#0000 I expect vg to come down too, around when fim starts coming down [17-Apr-25 09:40 AM] realharvey#0000 I believe FIM will stay stable because the new bases that will probably replace IDC will require more FIM than FIM demand has been before. And with MEA demand going down and therefore requiring less FIM to produce MEA I think there wont be alot of change in the FIM market [17-Apr-25 09:42 AM] pagy1234#0000 yeah lets see, idk how many people will actually make the new MM items, they are slightly worse than current IDC, but take way more effort [17-Apr-25 09:46 AM] getonthetrain#0000 https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-party-gif-4879842 {Embed} https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-party-gif-4879842 https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/xp-i5v2X_wDkKFxpA3vFT4iUYd1SimbNhUaDbliNEYw/https/media.tenor.com/Ri01ZJQzflYAAAAe/welcome-to-the-party.png [17-Apr-25 02:37 PM] pxlfox.#0000 Not all of them [17-Apr-25 02:40 PM] pxlfox.#0000 But none of them are one-permit-wonders, like IDC was {Reactions} πŸ”₯ (2) [01-May-25 07:56 AM] laaxus#0000 I've updated the price on the sheet I also added INS to it so I'll start producing it as it is the only product above target price for pp3 [01-May-25 08:43 AM] tanda#0000 INS is technically at a target price of 115/unit for Kevin, but we are long way from that [01-May-25 08:44 AM] tanda#0000 I've heard rumblings of another INS focused project starting up in the BEN region, so hopefully we get some relief from that end {Reactions} πŸŽ‰ [01-May-25 08:45 AM] laaxus#0000 yes, but I plan on buying the input materials from the cx [01-May-25 08:45 AM] tanda#0000 understandable ============================================================== Exported 376 message(s) ==============================================================